Problem With Turnabout Nightmare Case

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Problem With Turnabout Nightmare Case

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When I start the case, it starts out perfectly fine, dialogue and pictures are showing, and when I get into cross-examination, I can press a statement without trouble. However, when I go to present a piece of evidence, it just returns to the testimony. I've tried this on both trial players and gave me the same problem. It occured during the first cross-examination, and I cannot go further.
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Just to be clear, are you using v5 or v6?
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He said both players. However, I'm not getting the same problem as him on v5. He says presenting takes him back to testimony. I say presenting keeps me there and won't let me go back to the testimony. Probably as a result of TNightmare being developed during, idk, v3 days when failure conversations were not implemented.
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My mistake, E.D. is correct, both players have seperate problems on my end as well. So I assume this means nothing can be done about it.
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Sorry for my late response.

I've done some testing and confirmed ED's suspicions. The problem is that Turnabout Nightmare lacks failure conversations. We'd need Ghaleon to fix that. I think Unas is too busy with v6 to fix bugs that are exclusive to v5. It looks like people will have to play it in v6.
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The funny thing is that I hadn't had this bug before. When I first played this, if there was a wrong present, the hp would simply drop and it would repeat the same statement BUT there would be a back button.
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E.D.Revolution wrote:The funny thing is that I hadn't had this bug before. When I first played this, if there was a wrong present, the hp would simply drop and it would repeat the same statement
Yeah, that has always been the expected behaviour for presenting when there is no failure conversation. (actually, it was the only behaviour in the first versions of AAO, before I introduced failure conversations)

So, yeah : if when you present wrong evidence nothing happens (or rather you re-read the same statement), it's normal, that's because the author did not create a failure conversation (maybe because he forgot, or maybe because failure conversations did not exist in the editor at the time).
If, however, the player hangs, then it's a bug. Though if you only have the problem in V5 I will probably not bother fixing it, since V6 will soon be the default. :)
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Re: Problem With Turnabout Nightmare Case

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So... Yeah. Problem with the pressing evidence is still there in Act II with the first testimony. No matter what I present, it doesn't work.

Will the bug be fixed? I can see it's been awhile, but this case is good. I really want to finish it.
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Like we've said, this isn't a bug. This means that the author just didn't write a failure conversation. It sounds like you just haven't presented the right thing yet.
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Re: Problem With Turnabout Nightmare Case

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I guess that's possible, but I'm almost confident in my answer. Maybe I'll try everything and then come back.
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