Stealthfire a écrit :
That's a pretty good example of something I hate. Well, the thing is, the annoying part is more of the way the rappers sing/timbre of the voice (maybe? unfortunately, I'm not too sure of the terms), the repititiveness simply multiplies that many times. In that example, the most annoying part is probably the way the singer ends each line of the song.
For an example of the closest thing to rap that I do like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAQ3Wk59zoM
You do understand why they make emphasis on the end of a line/verse right? It's from an older tradition: Back when you could only get on a mixtape, which was sent to clubs/record labels, you had to be able to make yourself sound unique compared to the rest of your competition, since you couldn't personally meet the executives. So two main ways rappers tried to stand out to grab these guys' attention was making a "call sign" to identify who they are in a track (Rick Ross has the "Playback music" call sign nowadays, or that weird grunt he does, DJ Khaled says "DJ KHALED! WE DA BEST", Ludacris says "LUDA!", Pitbull's like "Dale!"), and then varying the "timberness" as you describe it of their voice during certain parts of the song, in case someone wasn't able to hear the beginning of the track and hear the call sign. That way, if you heard of any tracks in the future by the same artist, you can at least start to pickup/recognize the voice of the artist. Some of the biggest artists in the genre, like Eminem, Jay-Z, Tupac Shakur, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, etc. they got noticed from mixtapes being sent to record labels by these two major methods of rapper identity.
In that case, the tradition is kept for a bunch of the rappers today. It's not necessarily planned like it used to be before, thanks to the power of the internet and exposing yourself easier without the need for a middleman (the label), and it's now associated more as a style of delivery, rather than a strategic decision.
If someone were to make me listen to that youtube track from a middle part of the song to guess who the artist is, I would immediately say "That's J-Kwon, I recognize his inflection he's doing at the end of the loop". Easily identifiable rap beat aside ofc
Think about a guy like OutKast, who doesn't rely on a call sign. His voice/style of rapping is unique on its own he doesn't need to say "OUTKAST!" in the beginning of a track, since his voice is so recognizable compared to other artists.
Now, the interesting thing about the link you sent, is that when you take the vocals out, there's not really much of a difference b/e the song you posted versus the one I posted, since its structure is simply longer than the Tipsy video, before it hits a loop. I can identify a structure in at least 10-15 seconds going into the video.
Regarding the vocals, it's intentionally monotonous, and that actually becomes distracting since the background beat no longer feels like it complements the vocals. That, and the video you posted looks like it's a skit/rap battle of sorts, so the vocals seem to be "in-character", hence why it gives the impression that it feels really different from the Tipsy video.
If I were your average college student, I would definitely not want to bump to this song in my car on loud volume, not because of the beat, but because of the robotic voice that doesn't complement the beat. Take it out though, and I'd change my mind
Not saying the song you're into is bad or anything, but the only real difference is the way the voice is inflected, and the structure taking longer to identify than the Tipsy video. I'm not sure what the hate is regarding the repetitive point, since the song you posted makes the repetitiveness even worse than the Tipsy video due to the monotony.
Lind a écrit :I find most rap to be pretty one-dimensional. At least, in its most common form. I like things like Nu-Jazz though.
Seeing where its origins came from (beatboxing), that's not a surprising sentiment, and is very agreeable. Hell, the rap songs that were from the radio heavily relied on sampling from other music too.
But thanks to the "club/pop synth" element movement that Lil Jon and Usher's "Yeah!" popularized, there's a lot more creativity with the production of rap tracks, and I'm glad to see it's been in full swing with creating much more original beats.
Sadly, the lyrics haven't advanced from the showboating phase...It's annoying hearing the same "I GOT MONEY, I GOT H**S, I'M TAKIN' OFF THEIR UNDIES AND GETTIN' FREAKY WHILE MY HATERS GETTIN' JEALOUS" lyrics being expressed in so many different ways. That's pretty much why the genre gets so much flak...the mainstream music's lyrics has been about the same thing for the past decade or so
. Kanye West at least tried to change that when he debutted though.
In that regard, yeah, the lyrics tend to be one-dimensional. Sometimes it's not that bad if the actual beat's really pleasing to the ears.