Dataman's Artie Threadie

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:59 pm

Welcome to the Dataman’s Artie Threadie!

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OC Sprites:

Spoiler : Markin Orla-Gallard :

Spoiler : Arthur Velda :

Spoiler : Marck Hack :

Spoiler : Alier To :

Spoiler : Blueflower :

Made for Routheboy1213:

Spoiler : Man White :

Spoiler : Roy Escobar :

Spoiler : Detective Rachel :

Spoiler : Thomas Malvrick :

Spoiler : Daryan Dless :

Spoiler : Harry "Hanger" Stanton :

Spoiler : Garcie Forest :

Spoiler : Yumi :

Edited Sprites:

Spoiler : Judge :

Spoiler : Polly :

Spoiler : Klavier :

Spoiler : Apollo :

Spoiler : Rhoda Teneiro :

Made for RudyRamirez:

Spoiler : Ema Skye :

Spoiler : Wellington recolour :

Spoiler : Winston Payne :

Spoiler : Younger Luke Atmey :

Evidence:

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Other artwork:

Spoiler : Logic Chess units :

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Music:
Please note! If you want to use the custom ones, ask first!
Covers:

Ace Attorney:
Blue Badger ~ I Want To Defend!
JBlue Badger ~ I Want To Defend! (piano)
Phoenix Wright ~ Investigation-Cornered (piano)

Trials and Tribulations:
Godot ~ Fragrance of Dark Coffee

Apollo Justice:
Apollo Justice ~ Objection!
Apollo Justice ~ Objection!
Kitaki family theme

Gyakuten Kenji:
Cammy Meele ~ Good Niiight
Cammy Meele ~ Good Niiight (piano)

Gyakuten Kenji 2:
Villain ~ The Man Who Masterminds The Game

Customs:
Theme songs:
Blueflower ~ Icy Flower
Velorto ~ The Anthem

AA customizations:
Custom ~ Bad Badger

Reminiscenses:
Reminiscense - Dark Past

Not compared to AA:
Ievan Polkka

As the title says, I merrily accept requests.

However, I reserve a right to refuse a whole job or a part in case I want to.

If you want to use some of artwork in this page, PM me first and ask for it.

Koda · Post by **Koda** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:43 pm

I stopped at that Juudas guy...

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Keep working at it, and you'll improve with time.

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:01 pm

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Koda · Post by **Koda** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:23 pm

~Dataman~ wrote:
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Not good if you stopped at Juudas, because he's first one in the page.
Well, maybe you shouldn't have that guy first
This character is my first one, and I admit it needs much work. It's made from scratch, wat maybe explains something too.
Saying it's from scratch is not a valid excuse, many fantastic spriters make their work from scratch. I'm not that great, but I usually scratch, and I think my sprites end up alright...
I don't think you can just say he doesn't even look like sprite, you must have evidence or even theory to backup your claim!
1) The amount of colours
2) The anatomy
3) In a completely different style
4) Doesn't follow ordinary sprite conventions, such as a clear outline, or not using black
I know anatomy is not my best ability , but I will try my best. Can you give me any specific instructions to upgrade it?
Honestly, I'm pretty bad with anatomy too XD maybe you can just look, and read some lessons online?
I hope you check my other works too.

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:44 pm

Koda wrote:
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Not good if you stopped at Juudas, because he's first one in the page.
Well, maybe you shouldn't have that guy first
Well, I didn't think it's so bad.
Saying it's from scratch is not a valid excuse, many fantastic spriters make their work from scratch. I'm not that great, but I usually scratch, and I think my sprites end up alright...
I'm not fantastic spriter. I checked your sprites, and (don't take this as an insult) they were quite simple everyone. I wanted to make cool-looking sprite, and it ended up being complicated.
1) The amount of colours
2) The anatomy
3) In a completely different style
4) Doesn't follow ordinary sprite conventions, such as a clear outline, or not using black
Colours... Can you check how many different colours are in Wocky Kitaki or Lang? My character's coloring is quite simple, except his hair and crosses.
I have seen very different-looking heads, even on shoulders of real people.
You can't possibly say anything like "different style"... Ace Attorney has character like Jean Armstrong, Machi Tobaye and Damon Gant; and they all have different style.
You are right about the outline. I haven't yet invented how to make it clear without making whole sprite look awful.
Honestly, I'm pretty bad with anatomy too XD maybe you can just look, and read some lessons online?
I have tried, and failed. Wise man said once: "Experiment is the best teacher."

Post by **Kroki** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:08 pm

Wow no your colors are nothing like simple, they use gradients. \o/
AA sprites use 2 to 3 visible shades, never gradients, it's ugly anyway.

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:14 pm

I'm going to fix it... maybe tomorrow.

Singidava · Post by **Singidava** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:15 pm

I don't really mind doing sprites with a style that's not AAish. After all, we're doing our own intrepetations of AA, not clones. As for my advice... looks like the sprites were done with a 3D program. I'm not a 3D expert but I think you should use a lot more polygons since you don't have to worry about lagging when it comes to sprites. You could also use 3D sculpting programs like ZBrush.

I'm all for alternative styles. Who cares about some colours if he clearly isn't even aiming for that style?

Post by **Kroki** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Because gradients are ugly. °–°

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:00 pm

Singidava wrote:I don't really mind doing sprites with a style that's not AAish. After all, we're doing our own intrepetations of AA, not clones. As for my advice... looks like the sprites were done with a 3D program. I'm not a 3D expert but I think you should use a lot more polygons since you don't have to worry about lagging when it comes to sprites. You could also use 3D sculpting programs like ZBrush.

I'm all for alternative styles. Who cares about some colours if he clearly isn't even aiming for that style?

Kroki wrote:Because gradients are ugly. °–°

Looks like I have got crossing comments.

Anyway, here is example of less-colored sprite, without ugly gradients:

Edit: And original picture with no 3D or gradients:

Koda · Post by **Koda** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:49 pm

That's already an improvement. Also, there's nothing BAD with a different style, but you were using that in an Ace Attorney style... it just clashed way too much.

~Dataman~ wrote:I'm not fantastic spriter. I checked your sprites, and (don't take this as an insult) they were quite simple everyone. I wanted to make cool-looking sprite, and it ended up being complicated.

I agree, that my sprites aren't very detailed :S But, uh, I don't see anything very complex with your sprite ^^'

Anyway, if you can convert that original picture into a sprite and add shading, it would already be way better, though that head is REALLY misshapen.

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:54 pm

Anything to please you. I'm still quite new here and in need of advice.
I will go on with other sprites and other trial so you can see what I have done.

But what did you thought about my other artworks?

Aer · Post by **Aer** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:51 am

Dataman, even I don't really SCRATCH scratch sprite, so its good to have references; and you can use references and still scratch sprite. If you're using a program that has layering, you can trace official sprites for some basic guidelines for outlines. For doing attorneys at the bench, the perspective is set at a sideways lower angle, so you're kind of looking up into their nostrils, but can only see one eye.
With the level you're at right now, I think you need to work on anatomy in general. Once you've got that down, you can get to the style of the art of Ace Attorney, and eventually work to the shading style as well.
If you want some suggestions and tips or whatever, lemme know.
Keep working on your artwork!

~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:43 am

Aer wrote:Dataman, even I don't really SCRATCH scratch sprite, so its good to have references; and you can use references and still scratch sprite. If you're using a program that has layering, you can trace official sprites for some basic guidelines for outlines. For doing attorneys at the bench, the perspective is set at a sideways lower angle, so you're kind of looking up into their nostrils, but can only see one eye.
With the level you're at right now, I think you need to work on anatomy in general. Once you've got that down, you can get to the style of the art of Ace Attorney, and eventually work to the shading style as well.
If you want some suggestions and tips or whatever, lemme know.
Keep working on your artwork!

When I started making this sprite, I looked all around for sprites I could have used as reference, but nothing was found... So I copied one Edgeworth-sprite to get it right lenght, and started making sprites.
I will try to make better anatomy, only problem is that I'm not taught this in art-school I have been for many years.

If you let me say, I'm better in shading than anything else.
Actually, I would like to have that 'whatever'.

PS. There is new picture.

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~Dataman~ · Post by **~Dataman~** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:20 am

I added much stuff to topic. Go and check them.

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