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Spyromed wrote:Hm.

Do the first 51 bicycle's side Xs all appear to be different from one another?
Could the killer have seen that side X of bicycles #52 and #53 were the same from the opposite side to side X. (If the object even has a side opposite to side X.)
Bicycles #1-#52 all appear different on Side X. The 53rd bicycle looks identical to one of the other 52. However, it's only a problem if Side X is identical to another. The opposite side is identical by default on all bicycles in the room.

The killer could not have noticed that Side X of bicycles #52 & #53 were identical when viewing from the opposite side. If he had been able to, the murder could have occurred even with only 52 bicycles in the room.
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oh
Spoiler : BREAKTHROUGH?! :
Is "bicycles" some sort of... code word for playing cards...?
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To the guy before me
Spoiler : :
That's likely, I love doing magic, and 52 cards is usually without the jokers... maybe it has something to do with the riddle, but since I'm an idiot I don't understand a word of what's going on here!

Thanks, forgot about that reecer
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It would be really nice if you could spoiler that, TheReaper, since the question was already in a spoiler!

(also calvinball i've got a really good riddle thought up so take that into consideration.)
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@Spyromed:

That's correct, although theories of the riddle's true meaning are supposed to be in blue. :P

Warning: massive spoilers below...
Spoiler : The red truth key to explaining the entire riddle :
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Sorry - I was saving blue for the full theories.
Spoiler : Possible answer :
The killer saw that the victim-to-be was trying to cheat with a 53rd card, so killed him.

...Overkill.
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Oh, so he was right!
Don't read if you don't want spoilers btw... that's why there's a spoilers tag.
Spoiler : :
If the 53rd card is identical to one of the other 52, that means the deck must be fake, and therefore there must have been cheating during some sort of game, that or one of the 52 is a joker, but that'd be weird since nobody plays card games with jokers, therefore the crime took place because of cheating! Right? That would explain why with 54 cards it might not have occured since with two jokers that makes a full deck, and the 55 card murder would have happened because no deck has 55 cards! And the 52 card murder wouldn't have happened either since that's a normal amount of cards! That's a clever riddle pal! I really like explaining everything, sorry...
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Spyromed wrote:Sorry - I was saving blue for the full theories.
Spoiler : Possible answer :
The killer saw that the victim-to-be was trying to cheat with a 53rd card, so killed him.

...Overkill.
Blue truth... Effective.
TheReaper wrote:
Spoiler : :
If the 53rd card is identical to one of the other 52, that means the deck must be fake, and therefore there must have been cheating during some sort of game, that or one of the 52 is a joker, but that'd be weird since nobody plays card games with jokers, therefore the crime took place because of cheating! Right? That would explain why with 54 cards it might not have occured since with two jokers that makes a full deck, and the 55 card murder would have happened because no deck has 55 cards! And the 52 card murder wouldn't have happened either since that's a normal amount of cards! That's a clever riddle pal! I really like explaining everything, sorry...
Blue truth... Mostly effective, except for...
Spoiler : Partial rebuttal :
To say nobody plays card games with jokers is inaccurate. There are several card games where jokers are required. However, if playing poker, the jokers are optional, but most players would likely use both jokers. So, in this case, the 53rd bicycle is most likely an ace of some sort.
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Seeing as I'm still WAAAAY behind on responding to HellPuppy in the Game Board topic, I'm going to have to decline being Riddlemaster for another game. Thanks, though. I can't wait to see your riddle, Reecer!
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yes yes yes yes yes RIDDLE TIME

Two best friends were fencing. Half an hour later, one was killed and the other was found guilty. However, a third party actually killed them.

Why did the court come to their guilty verdict? Same rules apply as to the first one. Yes or no questions only, thanks - I can elaborate as I please.

I made this riddle myself, but I don't believe it should be any less logical than the first. Feel free to hurl insults if it really isn't, though.
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Spoiler : :
There was poison on the lance that a third party put on there - the wound would have been non-fatal if the poison wasn't on there, but they though the "guilty" person put poison on the lance.
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*Were these people fencing in the traditional sense?
*Was a starter pistol used?
*Was the starter pistol, if it exists, loaded with blanks or otherwise?
*Was the third parties equipment tampered with in any way?
*Was the third party some form of referee or otherwise?
*Was the third party human?
*Was the third party intending to kill the victim?

And just for laughs...

*Was the third party a baby?
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kwando1313 wrote:
Spoiler : :
There was poison on the lance that a third party put on there - the wound would have been non-fatal if the poison wasn't on there, but they though the "guilty" person put poison on the lance.
Blue truth... Ineffective.

Gee, jumping right to it, aren't you?

@enigma:

Q: Were these people fencing in the traditional sense?

Define the traditional sense, please. Are there some ancient 13th century different tournament laws I'm not aware of?

Q: Was a starter pistol used?
Q: Was the starter pistol, if it exists, loaded with blanks or otherwise?

No starter pistol was used. They weren't really training competitively.

Q: Was the third parties equipment tampered with in any way?
Q: Was the third party intending to kill the victim?

The third party's equipment all worked as intended, and did aim to kill the victim prior to the murder.

Q: Was the third party some form of referee or otherwise?

The third party was no referee, and in fact knew hardly anything about competitive fencing.

Q: Was the third party human?

Yes.

Q: Was the third party a baby?

The third party was not the newest and latest prodigy prosecutor. Or a baby.
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:)

Fencing follows the rules as given on the rules here on this wikipedia page, as of December 14th, 2015, 10:32 EST.

The method that the third party used to kill the fencer is a normal way of killing someone.

Poison was used to kill.
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*Did a court of law find the second friend guilty?
*Was the second friend found guilty of the first friend's murder?
*Was the first friend literally killed, i.e. their organs failed, their heart ceased to beat, their brain ceased to function?
*Are these friends even human?
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