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Alright everyone, I have a riddle for you. If you've heard this before, avoid spoiling it for the rest of everyone.

Two men were in a room with 53 bicycles. One of them ends up shooting the other with a gun, thus killing him.

Your job is to find out why the killing occurred. Feel free to ask questions, to which I'll respond with the red truth. If you think you understand what happened, post a blue truth theory in spoiler tags. I will, of course, respond with spoiler tagged red truth.

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Do these two own any of the bikes in the room?
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Did the shooter shoot the victim with a gun or some other device?
Is the number of bicycles relevant to the solution of this riddle?
Is any wordplay present within this riddle?
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By "men" do you mean two living people.
By "bicycle" do you mean a bike with pedals that needs to be pushed.
By "shooting" do you mean with a bullet by a gun.
By "the other" do you mean the second/other person in the room.
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Do these two own any of the bikes in the room?

Yes. At least one of them owns no less than one of the bicycles in the room.

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Did the shooter shoot the victim with a gun or some other device?

The shooter shot the victim with a gun. The original red truth has been updated to that effect.

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Is the number of bicycles relevant to the solution of this riddle?

The number of bicycles is relevant to the solution.

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Is any wordplay present within this riddle?

Most riddles contain wordplay in some shape or form. This is no exception.

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By "men" do you mean two living people.

Let it be known that both men were alive before the shooting, and the victim died immediately after being shot.

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By "bicycle" do you mean a bike with pedals that needs to be pushed.

--I cannot answer this question without further clarification. Is it the pedals or the bicycle that needs pushing?

The bicycles in question do not refer to what people might usually think of as "bicycles."

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By "shooting" do you mean with a bullet by a gun.

The victim was shot with a bullet from a gun.

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By "the other" do you mean the second/other person in the room.

There were only two men in the room at the time of the shooting and the time leading to the shooting. "The other" refers to the second/other person in the room.
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Did the victim own any of the bicycles in the room?
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Spyromed wrote: By "bicycle" do you mean a bike whose pedals need to be pushed.
Was the cause of the victim's death a gunshot/bullet wound from the gun that the other man fired.
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TheDoctor wrote:By "bicycle" do you mean a bike with pedals that needs to be pushed.

--I cannot answer this question without further clarification. Is it the pedals or the bicycle that needs pushing?
I've heard this riddle before, so I'm going to challenge you on that answer. Even without considering the pedal part of the question, the question has a definite answer.
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Did the victim own any of the bicycles in the room?

The victim owned at least one of the bicycles in the room.

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Was the cause of the victim's death a gunshot/bullet wound from the gun that the other man fired.

The victim's cause of death was a bullet wound from the gun the other man fired.
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TheDoctor wrote:By "bicycle" do you mean a bike with pedals that needs to be pushed.

--I cannot answer this question without further clarification. Is it the pedals or the bicycle that needs pushing?
I've heard this riddle before, so I'm going to challenge you on that answer. Even without considering the pedal part of the question, the question has a definite answer.
Very well, the bicycles in question do not refer to what people might usually think of as "bicycles." The above post has been edited to reflect this red truth.
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Are these bicycles people?
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Are these bicycles people?

The bicycles are not people.
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If there were 54 bicycles or 52 bicycles, this murder would not have occurred.
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The murder would not have occurred if the number of bicycles was 52 or 54.

Upon advisement from the referee, I need to clarify this further.

If the number of bicycles was 52, the murder would not have occurred. If the number of bicycles was 54, the murder may or may not have occurred depending on the nature of bicycles #53 & #54. However, if the number of bicycles was 55, the murder would have definitely occurred.
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53 is significant because it is a prime number.
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53 being a prime number is irrelevant to the killer's motive.

Upon the referee's advisement, I need to clarify this further.

Before shooting the victim's, the fact that 53 is a prime number did not cross the killer's mind. However, 53 being a prime number is not entirely unrelated to the killing.
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