Locked Room Murder Mystery Battle

[Broocevelt]

Oh I completely misread your post xP

[Enthalpy]

Finally, progress is being made! The continuation of TwiGav VS Kwando is on now!

[kwando1313]

Continued log...

Spoiler : :

Log:

Kwando: I killed BP in a perfect locked room. /red
Gav: I killed BP in a perfect locked room. /red
Kwando: Statement of Mystery: To win, you must a) Solve how I locked the victim in the room, and b) Solve how I killed the victim.
Gav: To win, you must a) state the cause of death (including the murder weapon), b)solve the trickery behind the room.
Gav: You killed BP with a sharp object. /blue
Kwando: Hmm... Yes. /red
Kwando: You killed BP directly, direct meaning that you held on to the murder weapon at the time of death. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Kwando: Clarification: When I say you solve how I killed the victim, you must solve for the murder weapon as well.
Gav: The item that killed BP can be found in an everyday household. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed the victim with poison. /blue
Gav: I did not poision the victim. /red
Gav: You stabbed BP in some way. /blue
Kwando: Nope-a-dope-dope. /red
Kwando: BP's death was caused by some sort of explosive. /blue
Gav: BP's death was not caused by explosives. /red
Gav: BP had a wound on his body when he was discovered. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: The weapon which was used to kill BP is something that is normally used for killing someone. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: The object that was used to kill BP, when used, is usually used for murder. /blue
Gav: Acknowledged. /red
Gav: You directly killed BP. /blue
Gav: Clarification: You killed BP without any external help. /blue
Gav: Clarification: The use of living creatures or weapons that killed BP own their own. /blue
Gav: Clarification: You didn't wield a weapon when the fatal wound was made. /blue
Kwando: I was not holding onto the weapon when the fatal wound was made. /red
Kwando: An electric chair was used in the murder. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP died accidentally. (IE: Your actions led to BP's death, but you didn't mean to kill him.) /blue
Kwando: False. /red
Kwando: No injections were used? /blue
Gav: No injections were used. /red
Gav: The sharp object used could not impale, as it did not have a real sharp "point". /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP had wounds on his body that were caused by the murder weapon. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used spikes to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP bled to death. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: BP died because of blood pouring out from his wounds. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a knife to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: lol nope. /red
Kwando: A gun was involved in the murder. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a sword to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Yeah, no. /red
Kwando: A sharp object of some sort was used to kill BP. /blue
Enthalpy: Due to the way TwiGav worded his question, kwando's murder weapon definitely does NOT have a point in the way that the word was understood in the context of the question. /gold
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used a weapon that would by found in a woodshop to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: Knives were used. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: Not multiple knives, but a knife of some kind. /blue
Gav: AHAHAHAHAnozatisfalse. /red
Gav: You used a razor to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The weapon you used to kill BP has a blade of some sort. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The weapon used to kill BP had a curved blade. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: You paper cutted BP to death? /blue
Gav: I did not paper cut BP to death. /red
Gav: BP died from blunt force trauma. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: BP died from blunt force trauma. /blue
Gav: BP did not die from blunt force trauma. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: Both victims died of sharp force trauma, but not blood loss. No murder weapon was wielded by the murderer. The more specific causes of death were different as well. /gold
Gav: BP died in a bear trap. /blue
Kwando: Nein. /red
Kwando: The thing that killed BP had "jaws" of some sort. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: Like, it's sharp and clamps down on the victim.
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a man-made weapon to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Of course it's man made. You expected me to kill him with a blade of grass or something? /red
Kwando: You killed BP with something that you can impale him with, such as a lance. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You killed BP with an arrow of some sort. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a spear. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You killed BP using a surgical tool. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a weapon that would be commonly used as a weapon in the Middle Ages. /blue
Gav: ...What. False. /red
Gav: BP is a human. /blue
Kwando: Uh, yeah. /red
Kwando: A bayonette, perhaps? /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP died when a vital stop in his body, like an artery or an organ, etc., was wounded. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You used a blowdart to kill BP. /blue
Gav: FALSE. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: TwiGav: Think colonial. Kwando, think video games.
Gav: You used a bayonet to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: I somehow guessed you would say that... But no. /red
Kwando: Shruikens, anyone? /blue
Gav: DENIED, anyone? /red
Gav: Your weapon is a weapon that was commonly used in the 18th century. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The weapon you used to kill BP is fictional, though it may have a real-life counterpart. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used a saber or a cutlass to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: To clarify upon my last blue, what I am saying is that as a weapon, it exclusively exists as a non-real concept. EX: A lightsabre. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Kwando: An arrow? /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You killed BP using a 19th century weapon.
Kwando: Nope. /red
Enthalpy: The hint I gave you and the reds that Kwando gave you are all accurate. /gold
Kwando: You used a staff to kill BP. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used something that wouldn't be classified as a "weapon" like a bear trap, or a kitchen knife to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You used a ball and chain to kill BP. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: Twi: Kwando's murder weapon was made to kill people, but it wasn't meant to be a murder weapon.
Enthalpy: HINT: Kwando: Think of something that's in almost every adventure game. Without fail.
Gav: BP was killed with a guillotine. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a key. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP was exectued by you, the executioner. /blue
Kwando: ... I already stated this earlier, but yes. /red
Kwando: You were inside the room when BP died. /blue
Gav: I was not inside the room when BP died. /red
Gav: You operated the guillotine yourself. /blue
Kwando: Of course I did. /red
Kwando: When BP was killed, the room was already locked. /blue
Gav: It's hard to say. Either way, it doesn't matter. /red
Gav: You locked the room yourself. /blue
Gav: CLARIFICATION: KWANDO1313's actions led to the room being locked. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: Other than the death, the room did not change in any way during the murder. /blue
Gav: Define "other than the death"
Kwando: Other than the body being killed, as well as any movement from any struggle. Basically, the room's state does not change. IE: No moving walls, ceilings, or floors.
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You locked the room after the murder. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: One of the walls moved causing BP to be impaled by spikes. /blue
Gav: Correct. /red
Gav: You locked the room before the murder. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You put an object which BP touched/activated in some way which caused the walls to move. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You locked the room during the murder. /blue
Kwando: Well, that's the only thing left, isn't it? /red
Kwando: THe room was constructed around BP while he was knocked out. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You went into the guillotine room with the victim and sliced his head open - but his head wasn't fully disjointed, and he was still alive. You then locked the door and sliced the guillotine again. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: Before the murder took place, there were no cavities which BP could enter from. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: After the guillotine came down once, BP was already dead. /blue
Kwando: True. /red
Kwando: The room which BP was in initially had no ceiling, so BP climbed into the room. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The guillotine was near the door to the room, IF the room had a door. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: The entrance to the room is a normal entrance: IE: A door or a window. A crack in the wall DOES NOT count as a "normal entrance". /blue
Gav: FALSE. /red

[Enthalpy]

Now that I think about it, are the other four entrants still participating in the battle?

And again, I would be interested in a match at some point if somebody would judge, and another person be the opponent.

[kwando1313]

Gaaaaaaaaaaav. I'm waiting for youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... DDDD:

[Gav]

I am proud to announce the winner of the second part of Round 1 of the tournament!

Spoiler : :

Kwando1313 is the winner.

I place BP on a platform underground and bring him into the room via it. I seal the platform with a section of the floor and close in the walls, which have spikes on them. This leads to BP's death. I then walk out of the small room the platform was in and lock in behind me.

[kwando1313]

Oh man, here's my locked room.

Spoiler : :

This is how I kill my victim.

First, I attach a rope to the window and attach the other end of the rope to a guillotine. The rope is taut when the window is open.
The window can only be opened and closed from the inside. The pulley used for this would be the ceiling fan.

So, what I do is this. I knock out the victim and place him under the area where my guillotine is. I enter through the door, and lock it from the inside with the key.
Then, I plant the key on his body. I then leave through the window, and the rope falls (via it being burned) and kills our hapless victim. Said action also closes the window, leaving it as a perfect locked room.

Evidence left behind would be...

An assortment of rope strewn about
A blade

That's about it.

Spoiler : Completed Log :

Log:

Kwando: I killed BP in a perfect locked room. /red
Gav: I killed BP in a perfect locked room. /red
Kwando: Statement of Mystery: To win, you must a) Solve how I locked the victim in the room, and b) Solve how I killed the victim.
Gav: To win, you must a) state the cause of death (including the murder weapon), b)solve the trickery behind the room.
Gav: You killed BP with a sharp object. /blue
Kwando: Hmm... Yes. /red
Kwando: You killed BP directly, direct meaning that you held on to the murder weapon at the time of death. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Kwando: Clarification: When I say you solve how I killed the victim, you must solve for the murder weapon as well.
Gav: The item that killed BP can be found in an everyday household. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed the victim with poison. /blue
Gav: I did not poision the victim. /red
Gav: You stabbed BP in some way. /blue
Kwando: Nope-a-dope-dope. /red
Kwando: BP's death was caused by some sort of explosive. /blue
Gav: BP's death was not caused by explosives. /red
Gav: BP had a wound on his body when he was discovered. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: The weapon which was used to kill BP is something that is normally used for killing someone. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: The object that was used to kill BP, when used, is usually used for murder. /blue
Gav: Acknowledged. /red
Gav: You directly killed BP. /blue
Gav: Clarification: You killed BP without any external help. /blue
Gav: Clarification: The use of living creatures or weapons that killed BP own their own. /blue
Gav: Clarification: You didn't wield a weapon when the fatal wound was made. /blue
Kwando: I was not holding onto the weapon when the fatal wound was made. /red
Kwando: An electric chair was used in the murder. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP died accidentally. (IE: Your actions led to BP's death, but you didn't mean to kill him.) /blue
Kwando: False. /red
Kwando: No injections were used? /blue
Gav: No injections were used. /red
Gav: The sharp object used could not impale, as it did not have a real sharp "point". /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP had wounds on his body that were caused by the murder weapon. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used spikes to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP bled to death. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: BP died because of blood pouring out from his wounds. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a knife to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: lol nope. /red
Kwando: A gun was involved in the murder. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a sword to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Yeah, no. /red
Kwando: A sharp object of some sort was used to kill BP. /blue
Enthalpy: Due to the way TwiGav worded his question, kwando's murder weapon definitely does NOT have a point in the way that the word was understood in the context of the question. /gold
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used a weapon that would by found in a woodshop to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: Knives were used. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: Not multiple knives, but a knife of some kind. /blue
Gav: AHAHAHAHAnozatisfalse. /red
Gav: You used a razor to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The weapon you used to kill BP has a blade of some sort. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The weapon used to kill BP had a curved blade. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: You paper cutted BP to death? /blue
Gav: I did not paper cut BP to death. /red
Gav: BP died from blunt force trauma. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: BP died from blunt force trauma. /blue
Gav: BP did not die from blunt force trauma. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: Both victims died of sharp force trauma, but not blood loss. No murder weapon was wielded by the murderer. The more specific causes of death were different as well. /gold
Gav: BP died in a bear trap. /blue
Kwando: Nein. /red
Kwando: The thing that killed BP had "jaws" of some sort. /blue
Kwando: Clarification: Like, it's sharp and clamps down on the victim.
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used a man-made weapon to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Of course it's man made. You expected me to kill him with a blade of grass or something? /red
Kwando: You killed BP with something that you can impale him with, such as a lance. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You killed BP with an arrow of some sort. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a spear. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You killed BP using a surgical tool. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a weapon that would be commonly used as a weapon in the Middle Ages. /blue
Gav: ...What. False. /red
Gav: BP is a human. /blue
Kwando: Uh, yeah. /red
Kwando: A bayonette, perhaps? /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP died when a vital stop in his body, like an artery or an organ, etc., was wounded. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You used a blowdart to kill BP. /blue
Gav: FALSE. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: TwiGav: Think colonial. Kwando, think video games.
Gav: You used a bayonet to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: I somehow guessed you would say that... But no. /red
Kwando: Shruikens, anyone? /blue
Gav: DENIED, anyone? /red
Gav: Your weapon is a weapon that was commonly used in the 18th century. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The weapon you used to kill BP is fictional, though it may have a real-life counterpart. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: You used a saber or a cutlass to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: To clarify upon my last blue, what I am saying is that as a weapon, it exclusively exists as a non-real concept. EX: A lightsabre. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Kwando: An arrow? /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You killed BP using a 19th century weapon.
Kwando: Nope. /red
Enthalpy: The hint I gave you and the reds that Kwando gave you are all accurate. /gold
Kwando: You used a staff to kill BP. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You used something that wouldn't be classified as a "weapon" like a bear trap, or a kitchen knife to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You used a ball and chain to kill BP. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Enthalpy: HINT: Twi: Kwando's murder weapon was made to kill people, but it wasn't meant to be a murder weapon.
Enthalpy: HINT: Kwando: Think of something that's in almost every adventure game. Without fail.
Gav: BP was killed with a guillotine. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: You killed BP with a key. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: BP was exectued by you, the executioner. /blue
Kwando: ... I already stated this earlier, but yes. /red
Kwando: You were inside the room when BP died. /blue
Gav: I was not inside the room when BP died. /red
Gav: You operated the guillotine yourself. /blue
Kwando: Of course I did. /red
Kwando: When BP was killed, the room was already locked. /blue
Gav: It's hard to say. Either way, it doesn't matter. /red
Gav: You locked the room yourself. /blue
Gav: CLARIFICATION: KWANDO1313's actions led to the room being locked. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: Other than the death, the room did not change in any way during the murder. /blue
Gav: Define "other than the death"
Kwando: Other than the body being killed, as well as any movement from any struggle. Basically, the room's state does not change. IE: No moving walls, ceilings, or floors.
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You locked the room after the murder. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: One of the walls moved causing BP to be impaled by spikes. /blue
Gav: Correct. /red
Gav: You locked the room before the murder. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: You put an object which BP touched/activated in some way which caused the walls to move. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You locked the room during the murder. /blue
Kwando: Well, that's the only thing left, isn't it? /red
Kwando: THe room was constructed around BP while he was knocked out. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You went into the guillotine room with the victim and sliced his head open - but his head wasn't fully disjointed, and he was still alive. You then locked the door and sliced the guillotine again. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: Before the murder took place, there were no cavities which BP could enter from. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: After the guillotine came down once, BP was already dead. /blue
Kwando: True. /red
Kwando: The room which BP was in initially had no ceiling, so BP climbed into the room. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The guillotine was near the door to the room, IF the room had a door. /blue
Kwando: No. /red
Kwando: The entrance to the room is a normal entrance: IE: A door or a window. A crack in the wall DOES NOT count as a "normal entrance". /blue
Gav: FALSE. /red
Gav: There's a door inside the room. /blue
Kwando: Of course. What type of room has no door? /red
Kwando: Your locked room has a moving floor. /blue
Gav: The locked room does not have a moving floor. /red
Gav: There is more than one door in your locked room. /blue
Kwando: There is only one door in my locked room. /red
Kwando: If there were no spikes in the room, BP would be crushed to death. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You locked the room during the murder. /blue
Gav: CLARIFICATION: You locked the room when the first wound was inflicted, but before death. /blue
Kwando: False. /red
Kwando: BP fell onto the spikes. /blue
Gav: BP did not fall onto the spikes. /red
Gav: The victim locked the door, either on your instructions or not. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: If the walls did not move after BP entered, BP would not have died from the spikes. /blue
Gav: True. /red
Gav: A third party locked the doors. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The wall that moves does not matter. /blue
Gav: The wall that moves matters. /red
Gav: Others were present when the victim died. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: The ceiling is the wall that moves. /blue
Gav: The ceiling is not one of the walls that moves. /red
Gav: The victim committed a crime. Therefore, he was a criminal. /blue
Kwando: The victim's criminal state is irrelevant to the crime. /red
Kwando: BP is a regular sized human. /blue
Gav: Of course. /red
Gav: You were told to kill BP. /blue
Kwando: Irrelevant. /red
Kwando: THe walls pushed BP into the spikes. /blue (IE: The moving walls are not made of spikes.)
Gav: The spikes are implanted on the wall, yet the walls are not made of spikes. /red
Gav: You went into the room and executed BP using a guillotine. You then came out of the room and locked the door behind you. Because an execution is not technically a murder if it has no motive, your red truths are not contradicted. /blue
Kwando: Longest blue ever.... But no. /red
Kwando: The way BP entered the room is irrelevant. /blue
Gav: The way BP entered the room is relevant. /red
Gav: An execution here counts as a murder. /blue
Kwando: Irrelevant. /red
Kwando: BP was being moved via something like a conveyer belt towards the spikes. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The door was locked at the time of discovery. /blue
Kwando: But of course. What type of locked room would it be without a locked door? /red
Kwando: The moving walls were the "murder weapon" to BP's death. IE: The spikes were attached in some way to the walls. /blue
Gav: I've already confirmed this, but yes. /red
Gav: The door was locked before the murder. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: The spikes extended themselves from the wall, rather than the wall actually moving. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: The door was unlocked more than once. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP was able to enter the room before the murder because the wall had not moved to its final position which would trap him inside the locked room. /blue
Gav: Irrelevant. /red
Gav: All that matters is that BP got into the room somehow and the walls closed in on him with spikes, impaling him. /red
Gav: You unlocked the room, executed BP, and went out of the room with is corpse. /blue
Kwando: ahaha.wav no. /red
Kwando: BP's actions caused the room to be locked. /blue
Gav: BP's actions did not cause the room to be locked. /red
Gav: You left BP's corpse inside the room. /blue
Kwando: How else would they realize it was a murder? /red
Kwando: You pushed an object with spikes on the side to kill BP. /blue
Gav: ...False. /red
Gav: There exists only one key to the room. /blue
Kwando: Yes. /red
Kwando: All the walls are made of normal materials for a wall to be made of. THere are no walls made of sand, for example. /blue
Gav: All four walls are made of normal materials for a wall to be made of. /red
Gav: No third parties were involved in the creation of the closed room; either you, the victim, or both were involved. /blue
Kwando: True. /red
Kwando: There is a hole in the ground which BP could enter from. /blue
Gav: True, however, this does not satisfy they condition. /red
Gav: The door locks on its own. /blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Kwando: BP was in the hole when he died. /blue
Gav: False. /red
Gav: You brought down the guillotine so that it would slice only part of BP's head off./blue
Kwando: Nope. /red
Gav at this point resigns.

[enigma]

Is the tournament still on?

[kwando1313]

Considering NN has disappeared, and DWaM and Singi still haven't gone yet... Uhh... Probably. D:

[Enthalpy]

And again, I'd be interested in (finally) having a match against someone.

[kwando1313]

Hey. We actually /did/ do an LRMB.

First was BB vs. Enthalpy. Thally won.
Then was me vs. NN. I won.

It was quite a spot of fun. Though... It lasted forever. And now I'm tired. I'm too lazy to write what my locked room was and what NN's locked room was.