Hodou Masaka's Big Glorious Trial Writing Guide!
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I avoided Ini just because I don't really know enough about her. I never played the second game, after all. It was difficult enough to write about Franziska.
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Ahh, I see.
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You're totally missing out.Hodou Masaka wrote:I avoided Ini just because I don't really know enough about her. I never played the second game, after all. It was difficult enough to write about Franziska.
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Very much indeed.
By the way, is the crime section being postponed due to personal issues with your life?
By the way, is the crime section being postponed due to personal issues with your life?
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As with everything else I'm supposed to do, yes.
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Re: Guide: Hodou Masaka's Big Glorious Trial Writing Guide!
Not to threadjack, but would you like me to write a brief section on crimes, as a bit of an add-on to whatever you're going to type?
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...If you wanted to. It wouldn't technically be part of the guide though.
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I know this has been around for a while, but I just got around to knowing it existed and reading it... great work!! I like how it focuses a lot on the story, an often over-looked part of mysteries (in favour of clues, deductions and close-calls).
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Not to bug you or anything, but will anything new be added any time soon? I really liked this guide...
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I love this guide. You have great insights into the major characters and the canon, and a good sense of writing style.
I think I can help a little by giving some more examples.
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Hey Hodou. I'm someone you don't know named Nyhm. Now as to why I'm posting, I thought I could use some advice. So I reas your guide and I said to myself: Hey wait a minute, I already know about a lot of this stuff... but it's hilarious! So I'mma gonna keep a readun."
I'd like to give yah a pat on the back for such a great guide though.
Oh, and BTW, I've never played the Bitter Turnabout. I've never played any featured trial or any body else's trial for that matter, except for Ace Attorney Online: The Game, which I never finished. So now you've got yourself the odd one out.
I'd like to give yah a pat on the back for such a great guide though.
Oh, and BTW, I've never played the Bitter Turnabout. I've never played any featured trial or any body else's trial for that matter, except for Ace Attorney Online: The Game, which I never finished. So now you've got yourself the odd one out.
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You said "if you use canon characters, your trial IS a canon trial (barring some exceptions I'll detail later.)"
what are the exceptions...how would you go about writing a canon?
what are the exceptions...how would you go about writing a canon?
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An exception would be if your case is an Alternate Universe. I'm not really sure what you mean by "writing a canon". The canon is basically the events of the Ace Attorney universe - those are set in stone, and if your trial uses characters from that "universe", then it has to fit within that canon.fangirlarchives wrote:You said "if you use canon characters, your trial IS a canon trial (barring some exceptions I'll detail later.)"
what are the exceptions...how would you go about writing a canon?
However, like I said, an alternate universe would be an exception to that rule. In that case, you're working with your own "canon". However, 99% of the time, your "canon" will be working around the AA canon universe. For example, Edgeworth can't just be thrown in as a magical girl in some anime or whatever. Instead, he needs to be in an alternate-AA universe. Does that make any sense?
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The one exception is called an "Alternate Universe" (AU) case, which uses the same characters, but gives them different backstories and significant but not absolute character changes. The best examples of this are Shattered Glass: Turnabout Reversal by TheDoctor and Turnabout of Courage by Blackrune.
To write an AU case well, you need to make it clear what the changes from the canon personality are, and to make the character consistent as a whole. In Turnabout Reversal, we see quickly enough that Edgeworth has a different backstory, and we get a feel for what that backstory is. Because it's part of an AU!series, it can and should be slower in revealing the details of the AU to the reader. In Turnabout of Courage, the player learns early on exactly what has changed to its characters:
Changes should also be noticeable, but not so stark as to make the character completely different unless you have a very specific reason for doing so. As drvonkitty alluded to, making Edgeworth a defense attorney who never went through the trauma of DL-6 is perfectly fine if he still retains most of his personality. Making Edgeworth lazy and stupid is dangerous. Making Edgeworth a magical girl is idiocy.
To write an AU case well, you need to make it clear what the changes from the canon personality are, and to make the character consistent as a whole. In Turnabout Reversal, we see quickly enough that Edgeworth has a different backstory, and we get a feel for what that backstory is. Because it's part of an AU!series, it can and should be slower in revealing the details of the AU to the reader. In Turnabout of Courage, the player learns early on exactly what has changed to its characters:
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Really Glorious Guide! I had trouble choosing sprites for my OC until now