Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
Well, I think enigma and NN have both been pretty busy with schoolwork, hence the lack of communication...
I'd think it's more important to talk with enigma and co before we decide on anything...
I'd think it's more important to talk with enigma and co before we decide on anything...
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
You know as well as I do that the entire chain of command has been thrown into disarray with recent events. Not that that's an excuse for leaving things as they are, but... but after two years, I'm not satisfied without TRYING to get a hold of someone to just TRY and see if we can still make it work.
...Look, if this is the ending you want, I can't exactly overrule you. I can't exactly do the whole RP by myself. This whole thing depends on whether my fellow RPers want to participate or not. And it seems like you don't mind hanging it up a lot. And I get it. It's been a lot of fun, but also a lot of commitment and stress, and it's taken it's toll on me as well as it has anyone else. Possibly more! I know a lot of people dropped off, but towards the end, nobody was whining about burnout louder than me. If this is it, so be it, I guess. I can't force anyone to stay, nor would I feel comfortable doing so, when again, I get it.. But... we're not even going to TRY to get in touch with the remaining people in charge and either get a final word or some sort of communication going? That doesn't seem a little... ridiculous, for lack of a better word, to anyone else?
I get that they should have said something by now. I get that we as the players shouldn't have to do all the work in making them come to us when something like this happens. But I'll level with you, I don't like this. The way things are going, I may not have to like it. But right back at you, I still don't have to like it. I'm sure some of you have been thinking it from my complaints and how my activity went from being in the top percentage to a post a week or in the worst cases, every TWO weeks and I'm sure I managed longer at other points, I never wanted this. I just wanted a break. Not the whole damn system to collapse while I was gone having one. Maybe that would have been beneficial in the long run. Having a hiatus now and then to just let people chill a bit. Or maybe nobody was getting burned out that badly besides me and I'm just making excuses. I don't know, I can't speak for anyone but myself.
So yeah, that's where I stand. I don't like it. And I get it, it's not all about ME, it's all about US, but us means this is a democracy and that I still get a vote, and my vote is I don't like this. Maybe we've all been trying enough for the past two years, but I want to KEEP trying. But if I'm overruled, I'm overruled. Maybe I'll share a story or two for the post mortem. Maybe I'll be too upset about how all of this is ending to do that. I can't tell you what I'm going to do. I don't know how I'm going to feel in a week. I'm just telling you how I feel right now. The only good thing I can say about all this is that if this is it, the anchor that's been keeping me here as a somewhat active member on the forums is finally going to be lifted. So uh. That's going to be nice. I don't think it's worth it, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't feel some relief.
tl;dr, I don't think this is the right approach to take or the right attitude to have. But it doesn't really matter what I think, does it? If you don't want to try, I can't force you to stay. And I wouldn't want to. But... even if we got a hold of NN and the news he had for us was "Oh we're done sorry guys", then at least we can say we freaking tried. That's all I'm asking for. I don't think it's much.
But if the decision is we're going to let things rot (and let's be real spd, you KNOW things are going to rot if we don't make any sort of effort to touch base here) then that's the decision, and I can't change it. In which case... see you in a week. Maybe by a miracle everything fixes itself before the timeframe provided but I don't think they make miracles that big of a size.
Oh, one more thing, what's this Fire Emblem thing and why do you all talk about it like it's an actual game franchise that exists? You're all weird and silly.
PS: Uh oh, judging from kwando's comment, I may have put my foot in my mouth. Which... well, I honestly thought the whole thing was pretty obvious, but my mistake for being hasty if so. I just don't think this is worth keeping under wraps.
...Look, if this is the ending you want, I can't exactly overrule you. I can't exactly do the whole RP by myself. This whole thing depends on whether my fellow RPers want to participate or not. And it seems like you don't mind hanging it up a lot. And I get it. It's been a lot of fun, but also a lot of commitment and stress, and it's taken it's toll on me as well as it has anyone else. Possibly more! I know a lot of people dropped off, but towards the end, nobody was whining about burnout louder than me. If this is it, so be it, I guess. I can't force anyone to stay, nor would I feel comfortable doing so, when again, I get it.. But... we're not even going to TRY to get in touch with the remaining people in charge and either get a final word or some sort of communication going? That doesn't seem a little... ridiculous, for lack of a better word, to anyone else?
I get that they should have said something by now. I get that we as the players shouldn't have to do all the work in making them come to us when something like this happens. But I'll level with you, I don't like this. The way things are going, I may not have to like it. But right back at you, I still don't have to like it. I'm sure some of you have been thinking it from my complaints and how my activity went from being in the top percentage to a post a week or in the worst cases, every TWO weeks and I'm sure I managed longer at other points, I never wanted this. I just wanted a break. Not the whole damn system to collapse while I was gone having one. Maybe that would have been beneficial in the long run. Having a hiatus now and then to just let people chill a bit. Or maybe nobody was getting burned out that badly besides me and I'm just making excuses. I don't know, I can't speak for anyone but myself.
So yeah, that's where I stand. I don't like it. And I get it, it's not all about ME, it's all about US, but us means this is a democracy and that I still get a vote, and my vote is I don't like this. Maybe we've all been trying enough for the past two years, but I want to KEEP trying. But if I'm overruled, I'm overruled. Maybe I'll share a story or two for the post mortem. Maybe I'll be too upset about how all of this is ending to do that. I can't tell you what I'm going to do. I don't know how I'm going to feel in a week. I'm just telling you how I feel right now. The only good thing I can say about all this is that if this is it, the anchor that's been keeping me here as a somewhat active member on the forums is finally going to be lifted. So uh. That's going to be nice. I don't think it's worth it, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't feel some relief.
tl;dr, I don't think this is the right approach to take or the right attitude to have. But it doesn't really matter what I think, does it? If you don't want to try, I can't force you to stay. And I wouldn't want to. But... even if we got a hold of NN and the news he had for us was "Oh we're done sorry guys", then at least we can say we freaking tried. That's all I'm asking for. I don't think it's much.
But if the decision is we're going to let things rot (and let's be real spd, you KNOW things are going to rot if we don't make any sort of effort to touch base here) then that's the decision, and I can't change it. In which case... see you in a week. Maybe by a miracle everything fixes itself before the timeframe provided but I don't think they make miracles that big of a size.
Oh, one more thing, what's this Fire Emblem thing and why do you all talk about it like it's an actual game franchise that exists? You're all weird and silly.
PS: Uh oh, judging from kwando's comment, I may have put my foot in my mouth. Which... well, I honestly thought the whole thing was pretty obvious, but my mistake for being hasty if so. I just don't think this is worth keeping under wraps.
Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
Let's not all get too fired up and emotional here.
It really is in the ball court of the GM team to check in on their own game and communicate with us without our prompting.
Enigma did say a while back he wasn't going to be posting here for a while and to just keep going on without him, that bit is fine. If schoolwork is in the way, that's more than understandable, I'd just like a heads up where it can be easily seen around these threads.
UDR died out in virtually identical circumstances.
It really is in the ball court of the GM team to check in on their own game and communicate with us without our prompting.
Enigma did say a while back he wasn't going to be posting here for a while and to just keep going on without him, that bit is fine. If schoolwork is in the way, that's more than understandable, I'd just like a heads up where it can be easily seen around these threads.
UDR died out in virtually identical circumstances.
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
Hello! Just started University (aka. very busy) and am trying to make a new "home" for SDR0.2 that I believe I've talked with all of you before individually, prior. Still very much alive.
Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
Hi, players and readers. After some deliberation, I've decided that it's time for me to part ways with the 0.2 project.
Take a deep breath before you read this! I don't want to start a fight. I'm not seeking one. There's no need for this to end in metaphorical tears and bloodshed... but I feel, after much thought, there is a need for an end.
It primarily boils down to the sunk cost fallacy. We've been at this for a long time, and some of us are invested in seeing things through... but therein lies the biggest problem, as I've come to accept even with my intent to help others enjoy writing as I did so alongside them.
The scope of the game all but requires a great number of people maintain largely equal interest and self-drive to push things forward. I've seen it one too many times now, across the players and game masters, that this is not going to be the case. Some of it unfortunately an inherent fault in the framework of the game design that calls for a long-term commitment that some players may not feel comfortable putting in. I can't force them through it. No one can. No one should.
Saying there is interest is one thing. I do have interest! I've had a lot of fun writing out of my comfort zone - but I've come to accept that a lot of people I wrote alongside do not, and that there's a very high likelihood they will once again drift away and leave things to wither as they have several times. Even when they were technically present, the level of commitment on display strongly varied. I will confess that I was sometimes disappointed to see that the effort I might put into a post wasn't always met with as much enthusiasm and interest in turn.
I'd love to see where the story was intending to go. Quite a few of the characters are very strongly written, and have great players to match, but we are at the mercy of those who do not share this same drive. This often extends to staff, as well, who saw it fit to not communicate at all for five weeks - to say nothing of the treatment of one of them by the others. Given real life circumstances that I'm made aware of, we are probably not going to receive that strong direction necessary to see things through as they are.
There is nothing that would see to the less committed players actually post. It's easy to say 'I'm interested to keep going,' but the follow-through has often proven lackluster. Even during times of great excitement, the game would drag! Topaz's murders in Chapter 2 were fantastic (even with a few consistency slip-ups, none of which were fatal) and, most importantly, it filled me with faith that the playerbase largely did learn the lessons of UDR's and Chapter 1's individual controversies... if only people were to pick up their feet and play, the investigation and trial had to be dragged slowly across the finish line. The maturity of the playerbase gradually improved, but the level of commitment and drive - and ability to really communicate expectations of one another - did not.
I also felt there was a general disconnect in trust at times between players, and sometimes staff too. The weapon debate incident was by far the worst of it - given that there is that disconnect and uncertainty that has been put on display by the five weeks of silence, I don't think we're looking at a group that is committed enough to keep going, let alone truly trust each other and their writing. I think it's come to the point it's good for the health of people to be open and honest about wanting to disengage, rather than feel pressured to say to keep going. I am probably the most guilty of this towards several people, and for this, I apologize for adding so much stress to some in the misguided name of trying to be a good teammate. I admit I pushed many people far too hard.
Taking things to a new board is one thing. People will of course might say under pressure, 'sure, I'll post,' but that's not a guarantee. Constantly I'd have to check with people to get certain things going, and it was a frustrating endeavor to deal with people who, even when they finally posted, would only give the bare minimum and sometimes not even succeed in pushing anything forward with their posts. I do not feel this is going to improve in any substantial way that will see consistent, decisive, rapid movement towards the intended conclusion as things are.
Instead of bemoaning "what could've been," instead I'm going to take the things I learned from writing out of my comfort zone among then-unfamiliar writers and using that to grow further as an author - something I would encourage everyone to do instead of wallowing in sadness over "wasted time" or what have you. The time sure wasn't wasted for me on the whole!
I went in here writing a genre I never have before, in a format that would ensure my writing was read and indirectly critiqued with every post! I learned a lot from others' reactions to how I wrote, where I may have gone wrong, and indeed, where I went completely right. I can't wait to share with you my experiences, ideas, and plans going into writing a small part of a greater whole among those who would have equal importance and worth to my own ideas. That, to me, was the true worth of partaking in 0.2, Ultra Dangan Ronpa, and Turnabout of the Elements. (Sadly, I dropped the ball for Pleasanton, and for this I apologize - I do not believe it is within my available time and energy to pick it up again for the time being, which I understand is the most inconvenient thing for multiple people. I'm very sorry.)
I want to say thank you for giving me the opportunity to play among you as a complete stranger who came out of nowhere, and having run things for as long as you did even in the face of negativity and apathy. I feel it's all run its course in wake of long-established patterns, so I'm choosing to walk away satisfied with what did come to pass - quite a few fantastic organic conflicts I will be happy to share at length! - and not linger on what couldn't. A lot of what I planned to happen didn't, but that's the beauty of cooperative improv writing itself, because what did in its place was great and I'm excited to show you guys why I felt it was.
As a young child, I would come up with so many weird off-the-cuff concepts for stories between childhood friends that would fade forever to obscurity as the sun set on that day. Said friends and I may never pick that day's plot thread up again, but the value lied more in the fun we had in the simple act of doing - and I'm choosing to keep that line of thought going for my time in 0.2. Today I went to a weird playground! I couldn't play with all the toys there, but the ones I did were fun, and even with the ones that weren't, it didn't diminish my enjoyment of the ones that were.
Heck, given time and interest, I'd be down with writing alongside quite a few of you again if given the opportunity. I say let's all move on stronger for the experience, and look forward to what comes next - judged not for completion, but for what was gained from going for it as a shared experience between friends who have yet to fully outgrow playing pretend.
All this said, I will not be entertaining combative responses - I won't even read them! There's no need to compete for a last say - you can have it if you want, if you're so inclined. There's no argument to win with me, or anyone, to point out a villain or a hero in the big picture.
I instead impart my understanding - it doesn't need to be yours, but it is mine - that I had fun for an unbelievably long day that at last has the sun setting. It's time to go home for the evening for dinner and sleep, but there will be another day for fun if you choose not to linger on it. It's a day I'll happily talk about, even with a few scrapes to the knees, but one I'm recognizing ultimately now as yesterday.
See you tomorrow! I'll bring another shiny ball I have, if I have the time to take it with me in the morning... and if you want to play. Maybe we won't all play the same thing together again. Maybe I won't be able to bring the shiny ball, but that's okay.
I still like the playground, even if the jungle gym continues to intimidate me.
Take a deep breath before you read this! I don't want to start a fight. I'm not seeking one. There's no need for this to end in metaphorical tears and bloodshed... but I feel, after much thought, there is a need for an end.
It primarily boils down to the sunk cost fallacy. We've been at this for a long time, and some of us are invested in seeing things through... but therein lies the biggest problem, as I've come to accept even with my intent to help others enjoy writing as I did so alongside them.
The scope of the game all but requires a great number of people maintain largely equal interest and self-drive to push things forward. I've seen it one too many times now, across the players and game masters, that this is not going to be the case. Some of it unfortunately an inherent fault in the framework of the game design that calls for a long-term commitment that some players may not feel comfortable putting in. I can't force them through it. No one can. No one should.
Saying there is interest is one thing. I do have interest! I've had a lot of fun writing out of my comfort zone - but I've come to accept that a lot of people I wrote alongside do not, and that there's a very high likelihood they will once again drift away and leave things to wither as they have several times. Even when they were technically present, the level of commitment on display strongly varied. I will confess that I was sometimes disappointed to see that the effort I might put into a post wasn't always met with as much enthusiasm and interest in turn.
I'd love to see where the story was intending to go. Quite a few of the characters are very strongly written, and have great players to match, but we are at the mercy of those who do not share this same drive. This often extends to staff, as well, who saw it fit to not communicate at all for five weeks - to say nothing of the treatment of one of them by the others. Given real life circumstances that I'm made aware of, we are probably not going to receive that strong direction necessary to see things through as they are.
There is nothing that would see to the less committed players actually post. It's easy to say 'I'm interested to keep going,' but the follow-through has often proven lackluster. Even during times of great excitement, the game would drag! Topaz's murders in Chapter 2 were fantastic (even with a few consistency slip-ups, none of which were fatal) and, most importantly, it filled me with faith that the playerbase largely did learn the lessons of UDR's and Chapter 1's individual controversies... if only people were to pick up their feet and play, the investigation and trial had to be dragged slowly across the finish line. The maturity of the playerbase gradually improved, but the level of commitment and drive - and ability to really communicate expectations of one another - did not.
I also felt there was a general disconnect in trust at times between players, and sometimes staff too. The weapon debate incident was by far the worst of it - given that there is that disconnect and uncertainty that has been put on display by the five weeks of silence, I don't think we're looking at a group that is committed enough to keep going, let alone truly trust each other and their writing. I think it's come to the point it's good for the health of people to be open and honest about wanting to disengage, rather than feel pressured to say to keep going. I am probably the most guilty of this towards several people, and for this, I apologize for adding so much stress to some in the misguided name of trying to be a good teammate. I admit I pushed many people far too hard.
Taking things to a new board is one thing. People will of course might say under pressure, 'sure, I'll post,' but that's not a guarantee. Constantly I'd have to check with people to get certain things going, and it was a frustrating endeavor to deal with people who, even when they finally posted, would only give the bare minimum and sometimes not even succeed in pushing anything forward with their posts. I do not feel this is going to improve in any substantial way that will see consistent, decisive, rapid movement towards the intended conclusion as things are.
Instead of bemoaning "what could've been," instead I'm going to take the things I learned from writing out of my comfort zone among then-unfamiliar writers and using that to grow further as an author - something I would encourage everyone to do instead of wallowing in sadness over "wasted time" or what have you. The time sure wasn't wasted for me on the whole!
I went in here writing a genre I never have before, in a format that would ensure my writing was read and indirectly critiqued with every post! I learned a lot from others' reactions to how I wrote, where I may have gone wrong, and indeed, where I went completely right. I can't wait to share with you my experiences, ideas, and plans going into writing a small part of a greater whole among those who would have equal importance and worth to my own ideas. That, to me, was the true worth of partaking in 0.2, Ultra Dangan Ronpa, and Turnabout of the Elements. (Sadly, I dropped the ball for Pleasanton, and for this I apologize - I do not believe it is within my available time and energy to pick it up again for the time being, which I understand is the most inconvenient thing for multiple people. I'm very sorry.)
I want to say thank you for giving me the opportunity to play among you as a complete stranger who came out of nowhere, and having run things for as long as you did even in the face of negativity and apathy. I feel it's all run its course in wake of long-established patterns, so I'm choosing to walk away satisfied with what did come to pass - quite a few fantastic organic conflicts I will be happy to share at length! - and not linger on what couldn't. A lot of what I planned to happen didn't, but that's the beauty of cooperative improv writing itself, because what did in its place was great and I'm excited to show you guys why I felt it was.
As a young child, I would come up with so many weird off-the-cuff concepts for stories between childhood friends that would fade forever to obscurity as the sun set on that day. Said friends and I may never pick that day's plot thread up again, but the value lied more in the fun we had in the simple act of doing - and I'm choosing to keep that line of thought going for my time in 0.2. Today I went to a weird playground! I couldn't play with all the toys there, but the ones I did were fun, and even with the ones that weren't, it didn't diminish my enjoyment of the ones that were.
Heck, given time and interest, I'd be down with writing alongside quite a few of you again if given the opportunity. I say let's all move on stronger for the experience, and look forward to what comes next - judged not for completion, but for what was gained from going for it as a shared experience between friends who have yet to fully outgrow playing pretend.
All this said, I will not be entertaining combative responses - I won't even read them! There's no need to compete for a last say - you can have it if you want, if you're so inclined. There's no argument to win with me, or anyone, to point out a villain or a hero in the big picture.
I instead impart my understanding - it doesn't need to be yours, but it is mine - that I had fun for an unbelievably long day that at last has the sun setting. It's time to go home for the evening for dinner and sleep, but there will be another day for fun if you choose not to linger on it. It's a day I'll happily talk about, even with a few scrapes to the knees, but one I'm recognizing ultimately now as yesterday.
See you tomorrow! I'll bring another shiny ball I have, if I have the time to take it with me in the morning... and if you want to play. Maybe we won't all play the same thing together again. Maybe I won't be able to bring the shiny ball, but that's okay.
I still like the playground, even if the jungle gym continues to intimidate me.
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
I won't lie, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little upset with this decision as I've been finding the drive again after a much-needed unofficial hiatus and was totally ready to make things happen again... I also can't really be mad. I did just say it. I can't force anyone to stay. And you just said it. We can't force people to stay. And I get it, it gets frustrating. So... I mean, I really don't have anything else to say.
While this is definitely another huge hit to the roleplay... I'm still willing to give this all another shot. I'd be kind of a hypocrite if I didn't have that position. spd has made his choice, and I respect it, but all the same, I need to ask... who else has my back?
While this is definitely another huge hit to the roleplay... I'm still willing to give this all another shot. I'd be kind of a hypocrite if I didn't have that position. spd has made his choice, and I respect it, but all the same, I need to ask... who else has my back?
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
I'm still willing to stick around until this reaches whatever ending it reaches or is declared dead for good.
(Though I won't lie, unless the pace miraculously picks up, I don't see much of a future at this point.)
(Though I won't lie, unless the pace miraculously picks up, I don't see much of a future at this point.)
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
I don't believe it will be a surprise to anyone that I do not plan to continue with this RP either. My mind was made up about five weeks ago, which is the rationale for my own inactivity. I was waiting to announce this until some other matters had resolved, but recent events have preempted that.
I stopped enjoying GMing a while back, and in more recent history, to the extent I was GMing, it was actively unpleasant. There is a great deal more I could say about that, but I do not believe my reasons for this ought be opened for public discussion. Any other comments I would have, spd has already said them far better.
I stopped enjoying GMing a while back, and in more recent history, to the extent I was GMing, it was actively unpleasant. There is a great deal more I could say about that, but I do not believe my reasons for this ought be opened for public discussion. Any other comments I would have, spd has already said them far better.
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
So. Um.
I feel responsible. For all of this. spd got fed up because of how long the GMs took to communicate. They took so long to communicate because I never said anything. Because I really selfishly needed to take a break and thought it best not to say anything and just left things to lie, foolishly assuming that was what everyone else needed just because it was what I needed.
Speaking of spd? I know he was talking about me when he mentioned people who were taking forever to write bland, uninspired posts. He didn't mention me by name. He didn't need to. I think we all know that's true. I was very unmotivated for the final months of the roleplay. I know it. You know it. We all know it. And we all know my post speed and quality took a huge hit as a result. I'm not mad at him for sniping me. Why should I be? It's the truth.
I'm a very unapologetic person, because that's just the way I am. I don't apologize if I step on toes or offend people. I've said a lot of repulsive things to people in other realms of the internet. And I don't apologize for a word of it, and I'd say it all again.
With all that being said, one thing I will apologize for is this. I'm not one of the dedicated people keeping DRRP afloat like I was arrogant enough to believe. I became a poison that was slowly killing it. I know the goal was to talk about what made us happy about the RP but after how all this ended I'm just in no mood for it. But I don't deserve a happy conclusion to this, anyway. People like me don't deserve to be happy.
I didn't post this for sympathy and I didn't post this to debate about who's really responsible for this all. I just posted this to say I'm sorry, nothing more and nothing less. I'm sorry because I think I let a lot of people down, and no excuse I can make for a lack of motivation is good enough.
In it's own sick way, this is a lot off my mind, and maybe, just maybe, JUST MAYBE I'll complete a trial behind the scenes some day now that this is all to rest, but I won't be releasing anything I make, if I ever make anything publicly. But hey, if I like you, you'll probably get to play it.
But, like I said... the anchor that's been keeping me here for years after I wanted to leave is finally gone. So uh. If anybody ever wants to talk, I'm open, just hit me up on Skype or Steam.
I also won't lie, I probably said publicly a few times it never bothered me, but in the end... I am a tad upset I never got my character art from Evo. But after writing everything I did, how can I say I deserved it?
So, yeah... I'm sorry. I messed up. I could have done better. I didn't. Things might have turned out differently if I did.
Don't comfort me, don't convince me, just accept it for what it is. All right? All right. Cool. Sorry to make things even worse than they are now but I had to say something. It was eating at me deep inside after I read spd's post. I SAID I was ready to keep going after he left, but... was I really? I definitely couldn't have. I may have liked to fancy myself as someone who could carry DRRP. But I stopped being that a long time ago.
I feel responsible. For all of this. spd got fed up because of how long the GMs took to communicate. They took so long to communicate because I never said anything. Because I really selfishly needed to take a break and thought it best not to say anything and just left things to lie, foolishly assuming that was what everyone else needed just because it was what I needed.
Speaking of spd? I know he was talking about me when he mentioned people who were taking forever to write bland, uninspired posts. He didn't mention me by name. He didn't need to. I think we all know that's true. I was very unmotivated for the final months of the roleplay. I know it. You know it. We all know it. And we all know my post speed and quality took a huge hit as a result. I'm not mad at him for sniping me. Why should I be? It's the truth.
I'm a very unapologetic person, because that's just the way I am. I don't apologize if I step on toes or offend people. I've said a lot of repulsive things to people in other realms of the internet. And I don't apologize for a word of it, and I'd say it all again.
With all that being said, one thing I will apologize for is this. I'm not one of the dedicated people keeping DRRP afloat like I was arrogant enough to believe. I became a poison that was slowly killing it. I know the goal was to talk about what made us happy about the RP but after how all this ended I'm just in no mood for it. But I don't deserve a happy conclusion to this, anyway. People like me don't deserve to be happy.
I didn't post this for sympathy and I didn't post this to debate about who's really responsible for this all. I just posted this to say I'm sorry, nothing more and nothing less. I'm sorry because I think I let a lot of people down, and no excuse I can make for a lack of motivation is good enough.
In it's own sick way, this is a lot off my mind, and maybe, just maybe, JUST MAYBE I'll complete a trial behind the scenes some day now that this is all to rest, but I won't be releasing anything I make, if I ever make anything publicly. But hey, if I like you, you'll probably get to play it.
But, like I said... the anchor that's been keeping me here for years after I wanted to leave is finally gone. So uh. If anybody ever wants to talk, I'm open, just hit me up on Skype or Steam.
I also won't lie, I probably said publicly a few times it never bothered me, but in the end... I am a tad upset I never got my character art from Evo. But after writing everything I did, how can I say I deserved it?
So, yeah... I'm sorry. I messed up. I could have done better. I didn't. Things might have turned out differently if I did.
Don't comfort me, don't convince me, just accept it for what it is. All right? All right. Cool. Sorry to make things even worse than they are now but I had to say something. It was eating at me deep inside after I read spd's post. I SAID I was ready to keep going after he left, but... was I really? I definitely couldn't have. I may have liked to fancy myself as someone who could carry DRRP. But I stopped being that a long time ago.
Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
What? You were one of the four core players really holding the game together at its best in my eyes - the others being GD, Alnar, and I would say me.
Osuji was fantastically written as someone who helped spur conflict. Just earlier this morning (or, uh, last evening for them) I was telling Hersh how you were one of the best parts of the game, hands down, and that I think you really stuck it to any detractors that were present for when you got selected to play. Your run on Osuji is one of my very favorite parts of 0.2 even with occasional issues I might've had with your attitude towards certain things. I'm certain others would come to agree that you were stand-out and great fun when you were up for it.
There were activity issues much later on... but at that point the issues were almost universal. Heck, I accidentally held up Alnar twice, even, at one point. (Two points, back to back, in pre-murder Chapter 2.)
It's just the four of us could not carry the game, period. While you insist on saying not to comfort or console you, the fact of the matter is I did not ever consider you as one of the poisonous elements. The lack of communication at the very end with the five week gap was multi-layered in terms of problematic components, but the sum of them came up to me as "this has to end, I need to be the one to broach it."
A good number of my favorite moments of the game involve you, and I'll be happy to share what they were and why in the near future.
Osuji was fantastically written as someone who helped spur conflict. Just earlier this morning (or, uh, last evening for them) I was telling Hersh how you were one of the best parts of the game, hands down, and that I think you really stuck it to any detractors that were present for when you got selected to play. Your run on Osuji is one of my very favorite parts of 0.2 even with occasional issues I might've had with your attitude towards certain things. I'm certain others would come to agree that you were stand-out and great fun when you were up for it.
There were activity issues much later on... but at that point the issues were almost universal. Heck, I accidentally held up Alnar twice, even, at one point. (Two points, back to back, in pre-murder Chapter 2.)
It's just the four of us could not carry the game, period. While you insist on saying not to comfort or console you, the fact of the matter is I did not ever consider you as one of the poisonous elements. The lack of communication at the very end with the five week gap was multi-layered in terms of problematic components, but the sum of them came up to me as "this has to end, I need to be the one to broach it."
A good number of my favorite moments of the game involve you, and I'll be happy to share what they were and why in the near future.
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
just remember bb:
we'll always have an open washing machine with your name on it
we'll always have an open washing machine with your name on it
Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
In a bit of mood whiplash - I sincerely apologize to all of you just coming to see the above huge 'this needs to end' post and then this - I can add a spoonful of sugar to the bitter medicine in hopes of giving all of you who were truly involved with the game a good bit of insight. At worst, it's poor taste after a moment of high stress for a lot of people, and for that I apologize again.
It is an element I'm ultimately happy with, one I worked very hard on given how difficult it is to do in this kind of play environment. Maybe this can kickstart some discussion about the hows and whys of our writing, and what we enjoyed in spite of the tumultuous end of it.
The actual crazy in-depth stuff will be later. This is a singular question being answered, the very biggest one, with a bit of embellishment as I was hoping to reveal it in somewhat happier circumstances, but... I suppose it is now time sensitive and I should say it as soon as possible for best impact and potential enjoyment.
Here we go!
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I'll take a moment to go over the most infamous thing about Teruko Wada and her portrayal.
I have held strongly to the first rule of Knox's Decalogue: "The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow." (Credit to http://www.thrillingdetective.com here)
So, I never allowed anyone any initimate look into Teruko's thought processes, but I threw breadcrumbs in which some might intuit her actions or intents even in seeming absence of outright mention. This was the challenge I undertook in my attempt to learn the genre, writing her alongside you all.
There has been a certain terminology I've used with insistence when she gets obtuse and maybe even alien in her movements. Things that appear to defy any sense or reason to rational human beings...
It is called thus the ACTS OF ??????????.
This is ten question marks for a reason.
This is because it's a word, in truth. A word that I have hidden even from the staff! Let's unveil it... there are so many interesting words that it could fit!
Red rules are in effect, distasteful as I am finding them as time goes on. These letters are 100% correct.
ACTS OF M?????????
ACTS OF M?S???????
ACTS OF M?S?E?????
ACTS OF M?S?E??I??
ACTS OF M?S?E??IN?
This spells something. I wonder what it is... hm, let me get my blue marker.
Oh, I know, it must be...
It is an element I'm ultimately happy with, one I worked very hard on given how difficult it is to do in this kind of play environment. Maybe this can kickstart some discussion about the hows and whys of our writing, and what we enjoyed in spite of the tumultuous end of it.
The actual crazy in-depth stuff will be later. This is a singular question being answered, the very biggest one, with a bit of embellishment as I was hoping to reveal it in somewhat happier circumstances, but... I suppose it is now time sensitive and I should say it as soon as possible for best impact and potential enjoyment.
Here we go!
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I'll take a moment to go over the most infamous thing about Teruko Wada and her portrayal.
I have held strongly to the first rule of Knox's Decalogue: "The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow." (Credit to http://www.thrillingdetective.com here)
So, I never allowed anyone any initimate look into Teruko's thought processes, but I threw breadcrumbs in which some might intuit her actions or intents even in seeming absence of outright mention. This was the challenge I undertook in my attempt to learn the genre, writing her alongside you all.
There has been a certain terminology I've used with insistence when she gets obtuse and maybe even alien in her movements. Things that appear to defy any sense or reason to rational human beings...
It is called thus the ACTS OF ??????????.
This is ten question marks for a reason.
This is because it's a word, in truth. A word that I have hidden even from the staff! Let's unveil it... there are so many interesting words that it could fit!
Red rules are in effect, distasteful as I am finding them as time goes on. These letters are 100% correct.
ACTS OF M?????????
ACTS OF M?S???????
ACTS OF M?S?E?????
ACTS OF M?S?E??I??
ACTS OF M?S?E??IN?
This spells something. I wonder what it is... hm, let me get my blue marker.
Oh, I know, it must be...
Spoiler : Acts of M?S?E??IN?... THE TRUE ANSWER WITHIN! :
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
....Can't say I see the point in keeping secrets anymore.
With that in mind.... the REAL mastermind's identity...
With that in mind.... the REAL mastermind's identity...
Spoiler : spoiler tagging just for suspense :
Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
All right... next up in the post-mortem, it's time to talk about Teruko's character design choices in the pursuit of ACTS OF ??????????.
I assume you've already read the dramatic reveal of her important, pivotal role in the story. Let's move on.
I look forward to seeing what you all have to share, and your thoughts on the game and your writing if any.
I assume you've already read the dramatic reveal of her important, pivotal role in the story. Let's move on.
Spoiler : Name and Appearance (DR1+SDR2 spoilers, WHOLE GAME) :
Spoiler : Background and Personality :
Spoiler : Interactions and Setups :
Spoiler : Intended Fate :
Spoiler : What I'd Do Differently :
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Re: Super Dangan Ronpa 0.2 [OOC] (New Chapter!)
I... am still not in the mood to go into much detail, but maybe that's going to become apparent soon.
I intended to be Chapter 3's killer. I can't tell you my longterm plans, because... there really weren't any. I needed the motive for the current chapter to be handed out to incorporate it into my murder plot, somehow. That never happened, so no longterm planning was ever made. BP may or may not have collaborated with me on the murder. We talked about it once and made big plans and then it never came up again. In fairness, it never got an opportunity to.
We never decided on a victim. I was mainly looking at Singi, Dave, and Kwando, possibly a Ryuunosuke, trying to base everything off of user activity. I know spd wanted me to, and I have no objections to how well it would have worked out, but killing him really wasn't an option. Activity and all. Same deal with GD.
In the end, I can't logic or structure my way out of a wet paper bag. So maybe it's for the best I didn't screw everything up in case BP decided he wasn't up for it anymore. But not getting the opportunity to close off this loose end of a character I've been writing and evolving (failed attempt at calming down and maturing after being blinded, anyone?) for two years... it does leave a bad taste in my mouth and does leave me unsatisfied. Won't lie to you and won't lie to anyone else.
I intended to be Chapter 3's killer. I can't tell you my longterm plans, because... there really weren't any. I needed the motive for the current chapter to be handed out to incorporate it into my murder plot, somehow. That never happened, so no longterm planning was ever made. BP may or may not have collaborated with me on the murder. We talked about it once and made big plans and then it never came up again. In fairness, it never got an opportunity to.
We never decided on a victim. I was mainly looking at Singi, Dave, and Kwando, possibly a Ryuunosuke, trying to base everything off of user activity. I know spd wanted me to, and I have no objections to how well it would have worked out, but killing him really wasn't an option. Activity and all. Same deal with GD.
In the end, I can't logic or structure my way out of a wet paper bag. So maybe it's for the best I didn't screw everything up in case BP decided he wasn't up for it anymore. But not getting the opportunity to close off this loose end of a character I've been writing and evolving (failed attempt at calming down and maturing after being blinded, anyone?) for two years... it does leave a bad taste in my mouth and does leave me unsatisfied. Won't lie to you and won't lie to anyone else.