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[T] Turnabout Generations [Pt. 2: Need Feedback!] ○

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Phantom wrote:Welcome everyone! Glad to see you stopped by to view this thread! :april:
Just to take note, this is my first attempt at a trial.
This trial is meant to be an example to follow along with my guides, but also to pose a "what-if" scenario of a transition between GS4 and GS5, or maybe the start of GS5 itself. Obviously, with the official release of Dual Destinies, this case is an AU from the end of GS4. There are other reasons I've wanted to create this trial, such as raising the bar for first time trial standards, but won't disclose at the moment.

I'm also attempting to keep things authentic in-game such as details and personality, but will mainly focus on experimentation.
A large amount of custom content will also be included within the trial.
This is a trial-only case, and will have split parts due to loads of custom content.
There will be HEAVY spoilers in this trial if you haven't played the series, and especially AJ.

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TEASER IS OUT!:Take a look here!, it's slow, but please bare with it.
(If you want help with your teaser, check Danielinhoni's and Trybien's AAO Trailer Guild Thread)


Now I present a vague summary of the case:
Spoiler : Summary :
"The new generation must succeed the old."
It's been a couple of months since the case of Vera Misham, and Apollo's been eager for a new case, and has been awarded as such when he finds out a high-profile authority has been murdered! He takes the case immediately. The defendant turns out to be one mysterious, cool-headed client, what's his role in all of this?
Apollo's facing some serious competition, a new judge, along with a new prosecutor on the block, and everything and almost everyone against his side, this will be his toughest case ever! Can he pull through and defend his client? Play to find out!
Here is a walkthrough for Part 1:
Spoiler : Part 1 Walkthrough :
  • Ema 1 Testimony: Press everything to proceed.
  • Ema 2 Testimony Fake Contradiction: Press the second statement, pick the third option. Present Silencer/Bullet evidence at "The bullet definitely came from the gun that we found."
  • Ema 2 Testimony REAL Contradiction: Press the first statement. Present the Silencer at "The pistol does in fact, belong to the defendant".
  • Ema 3 Testimony...This is by the far the most hardest and confusing testimony [will definitely revamp at a later date].
    • Ema 3 Fake Contradiction: Press EVERYTHING and pick all options in press conversations. Present Autopsy report at "While the Judge was stabbed in the chest, his heart was slashed. He might have survived at the time."
    • Ema 3 REAL Contradiction: Press EVERYTHING and pick all options in press conversations. Then present Knife at "It is called the P-3 knife. It's specially used for infiltration and information extraction purposes."
Spoiler : Hint Guide for Pt. 2! (USE IF STUCK!!) You will need to guess what each item corresponds to in your play session :
  • Click, INTRO!
  • My parents taught me not to trust strangers...
  • One statement leads to your doom. One statement leads to your salvation. Press carefully, and think ahead ;)
    Your hint is provided somewhat by Apollo monologuing. There is a fact about someone you should remember from Part 1...
  • You got out of the CE with this answer, so you should be able to prove to the court with the answer you discovered!
  • This section is MEANT to bore you. PLEASE BEAR WITH IT! When in doubt, press EVERYTHING! Exhaust all options if you're getting desperate. (Careful! I think there are 1 or 2 statements that give a penalty!)
  • The issue that needs to be addressed should be easy.
  • Numbers are your friend in this CE...But they are also your enemy too. (There may be 1 or 2 statements that give you a penalty...maybe). Think ahead ;)
  • This doesn't require my help. When in doubt, press everything. (Careful, there may be 1 or 2 statements that could give you a penalty...maybe.)
  • This doesn't require my help.
  • On this CE, there are two ways to beat it. Think ahead ;)
  • After that CE....?????????????????????
Spoiler : SPOILER ALERT! Complete Walkthrough :
  • Let Wright Talk
  • JB CE: When given the option, do not "Add to testimony", instaed, Press More and THEN add to testimony when given the option.
    Present Cell's Profile, OR the affadavit at the statement about the silencer having a signature.
  • Present Cell's profile again
  • Ema's section is meant to bore you. BEAR WITH IT. Press everything as much as possible (when in doubt)
  • Choose the The Crime-Scene Setup
  • Gottem CE 1: When in doubt press everything.
    • Fake contradiction: Present doorbell at "I only rang once"
    • Real contradiction:Present "Tea Cup 2" to "I saw two spoons, two plates[...]"
  • Gottem CE 2: When in doubt, Press Everything
  • Stop the CE
  • No Eyewitness Exists!
  • Gottem CE 3, there are two ways to beat this:
    • When in doubt, press everything. Present the map at the "[...] Even though I knew he was near the entrance" Statement....
    • Or, when Apollo decides what statement to tackle, press Statement 6.
  • Gottem CE 4: ???????????????????
NOTE: Use Headphones for maximum experience!

Credits (At time of release by Part 1)[Will be updated]:
Spoiler : :
  • Dypo: Fixing and cleaning up alot of minor issues I had in the trial, and (soon) a custom sprite pose.
  • E.D. Revolution: For literally all the aesthetics you'll see in the trial, not only this, but for helping me out pretty much along the way with this, I literally couldn't have gone this far without his immense help! Filling in all the details, suggesting ways of making logic better, etc. You can consider him the co-author to this case!
  • Tap: When he gets to making a sweet new boxart (soon hopefully :p).
  • Unas and Sparrow for AAO itself! And also Unas for fixing a legit bug that had to do with the variables in our trial!
  • Meph: Helping out and answering some questions I had about the editor, but also for his blur courtroom sprites.
  • Court-Records.net: For all of their immense resources related to the AA series!
  • Capcom: For the AA series!
  • Danielinhoni: Teaser!
  • BBlader: For volunteering for much needed beta-testing! Alot of his bug reports proved crucial to put release on hold! Not only this, but for constant encouragement after a certain incident that almost cancelled this case!
  • Quadratic: For much needed beta-testing! And going ahead and start to fix issues he reported himself at that :p
And you! The user! For checking out this thread ;)

Anyone else I may have forgotten, again, this will be updated more.
Credits (At time of upcoming release of Part 2, put in here early to keep track of things):
Spoiler : :
Grammar/Proofreaders:
Rtaos Grimm (AAO)
Alnar (AAO)


Betatesters:
Currently 3+, will list them soon (for now only list those that have sent me the first reports so far and/or I have actively assigned):
Alnar (AAO)
ApolloGrimoire (AAO)
oyeah1988 (AAO)
aznpincer (CR)


...And more will list later if need be
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Resources:

soak111: Custom Character Art (Phoenix Wright. Apollo Justice.)
2 Risky: His fanmade track for Tekken on a character named "Raven", used as an Apollo Objection theme
Mikker: Custom sprite(s) (Bruce Goodman)
Dypo: Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix Wright)
Sligneris: Custom Sprite(s) (Godot co-councils)
Buddyfaith/Diego/Fenrir: Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix Wright front), Custom gallery mini-sprite (Godot, 2 others...Starts with a T, and a B)
Ami (from CR!!): Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix)
Nevertalk (CR?): Custom sprite(s) (Apollo, Ema, Mia,)
EternalDiva (AAO?): Custom sprite(s) (Apollo)
MaskDeMasuqe: Custom sprite(s)? (Apollo?)
Yamja (AAO, but which section?): Custom sprite(s) (E...)
CoffeeDrinker (CR!!): Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix)
Vladgamerobjectionitus(CR!!): Custom sprite(s) (Starts with a T...)
AceFresca(Spelling? What site?): Custom sprite(s) (Starts with a T....)
Dragonwalker (CR?): Custom sprite(s) (Starts with a T...)
gotMLK (AAO): Custom sprite(s) (Diego, Godot)
256Pi (AAO): Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix Wright Vulcan eyebrow raise)
Eric Hunter (CR): Custom sprite(s) (Phoenix laugh)
Lord Wackruntje (CR): Custom sprite(s) (Godot...? Links down)
AkdC (AAO): Custom sprite (Apollo)
Virt (AAO): Foreground bench objects
Dataman (AAO): ???
Tap (AAO): ??? (Box-art concept, Apollo front facial expression)
ReturnofthePhoenix (CR): Custom Sprite(s) (Godot co-council)
Midsummer Night (CR): Custom Sprite (Ema)
Percei (CR): ???
Zinle (CR): Custom Sprite(s) (Phoenix Wright Art/Sprite, Custom Godot Art/Sprite)
Crivtox[Spelling?] (CR/AAO?): Custom Sprite(s) (Edgeworth?)
Mick (AAO): Custom Sprite(s) (Edgeworth)
Personmann[Spelling?] (CR/AAO?): Custom Sprite(s) (Godot)
LordWackle[Spelling?] (CR/AAO?): Custom Sprite(s) (Front Godot)
GnommishReader (CR): Previewin' Lady

...And more will list later if need be
Released Resources
Spoiler : Sprites :
I have released some sprites that were designed/edited specifically for TGens. You can find them here: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/forum/v ... 61#p624361
Spoiler : PART 2 SOUNDTRACK LIST! DON'T Open unless you've played Part 2! You WILL get spoiled! :
Soundtrack (appearing in order):
All the names are WORKING titles. They are not set in stone (I only have "proper" titles for most of these to pretend as though this were a series). The titles may not reflect the intentions/visions I had for their use. I usually do not pick a song out based on what mood/feeling I'm trying to express within a scene. I just pick what works/sounds pleasing to my ears.

Credit to E.D. for the Spirit Intro track, that scene was pretty much his doing.
Credit to 2 Risky from Youtube for the excellent track that I titled "Objection Theme B".
Lastly, there is one track in here completely made by me. You may not use that without permission.


-My Reflection

-The Other Side of an Agenda: (Mass Effect 3 Cutscene(?): Citadel Takeover by Cerberus-Sam Hulick [Game Rip by Phantom]) [Unavailable on Youtube]

-Prepwork

-Apollo Perceive AJ2 - Hot Tick: (Tekken 4 Authentic Sky Remix by Psychon) [Video Removed From Youtube]
-Apollo Perceive AJ2 - Ice Cold: (Phantom's Edit of Tekken 4 Authentic Sky Remix by Psychon) [Credit me if you use this in your own case.]

-Yet Another Ema Theme

-Serious Thinking

-The Track That Plays Immediately After Bailiff Reconvenes

-Ready for Court (Recharged Chords): (Eternal Legacy iOS RPG: More Info [Game Rip by Phantom]- Main Menu)

-A Spiritual Courtroom

-Cell Part 2 Introduction Theme (First Part)
-Cell Part 2 theme, "Risen From this Bitter Hell" (Second Part)


-Spirit Intro

-Ghostly "Logic" Theme

-Ema "Fake" Theme

-Uncertain Agenda

-Whoa Whoa Whoa he has a gun! (First Part)

-Brutestar Agent Calm Down (First part)
-A Bourne Legend (Second Part)


-JB Testimony Moderato (From Part 1)

-His hat! (Second Part)

-The Cowboy's Agenda

-JB Character-Specific CE Theme

-Lasso'in Press

-Logical Stakes

-Game-Over theme

-Objection Theme A: Better than DD's [Non-Instrumental Version Linked]

-PW's Anti-Objection

-Yet Again, Another Ema Theme

-Much More Serious Details

-Ema CE Non-Character Specific Track Themes (Experimental)

-Objection Theme B

-Gottem's THEME (Alnar entry winner!)

-Gottem Quirk "Variant" Uno (Retro Racing iOS: More Info In-Game Song [Game Rip by Phantom])

-A Dangerous Phoenix (Alternative here)

-Gottem's First Character-Specific CE Theme

-Gottem's "Fake" Contradiction Theme

-Gottem's Quirk "Variant" Dos

-Gottem's Second Character-Specific CE Theme

-Gottem's Quirk "Variant" Tres (Phantom's Custom-Made Track based on Ghost Trick Soundfont [PERMISSION REQUIRED TO USE])

-Cornered (From Part 1) (Phantom Heavy-Edit [Original Youtube Video Linked])

-Gottem Third Character-Specific CE Theme

-Gottem Quirk "Variant" Cuatros

-Inside Gottem's CE: Statement Approach Method

-Tensioned Agenda

-Gotcha More Tension

-Adaption (From Part 1)

-Gottem Testimony 180 flip: (Part 1)
-A Bitter Agenda: (Part 2)


-His Reflection

-Intermission PW jingle

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Miscellanea
Congratulations to Alnar for winning the music competition!
Alnar's reward is full rights to the OC character Du GOTTEM BABY! Click here for more details!


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-Warning: Will take long time to load depending on your connection!
-Note: IF you have a slow machine, use google chrome, otherwise, FIREFOX IS RECOMMENDED!
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-UPDATE 11-7-10:
After some controversey of my trial getting sabotaged somehow, I had to restore from a backup, but luckily it was from a state where I had to just fix a few things, that's all.
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-UPDATE 8-20-13:
Composed a brand new box-art, by yours truly.

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-Update 9-1-13:
Part 2 released.
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Hey, you made a topic about it! High time, too. :D
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Re: Trial: Turnabout Generations (In Progress)

Post by E.D.Revolution »

Thanks for the honor, Phantom! I'm quite flattered. :larry:
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Re: Trial: Turnabout Generations (In Progress)

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Yeah dawgs, anytime!

I feel like it's still premature to post this thread, but might as well.
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Re: Trial: Turnabout Generations (In Progress)

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Don't feel bad. gombarry did the same thing. I'm doing the exact same thing for a gaiden project on AAO.
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Re: Trial: Turnabout Generations (In Progress)

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Oh that's not why, I just don't want to overhype it is all.
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I was just saying... that's all
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That's all then :p
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Re: Trial: Turnabout Generations (In Progress)

Post by Dypo deLina »

Will I be credited as one of the spriters once I finish that request, btw? :)

That said, it's okay to make a trial showcase for an unfinished trial. ;)
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Oh yeah for sure dypo, remember, that credit section will be updated, it's not final or anything LOL, its there so I don't forget.
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Lol, I was just curious. ;)

Btw, I think I have a pretty good idea how to do that request.
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Well I gave you the pre-base sprite, all you have to do is make it so he's moving his mouth in that pose.
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Too bad I suck at mouths. :P

That's what I've been thinking about.
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You can always get someone's help :p
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Yeah, I'll do that if I fail. :P
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